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Author: Roland Günther
Nov 13, 2001, 12:00:00 AM

Regarding Tobias Hoops' entry from Nov. 12, 2001: I almost thought that Benedikt had fallen for a brochure. Speaking of Orbid Sound, I had two of their speakers several years ago, they were called Mini-Galaxis (?), two BR powerhouses with 8 bass-midrange drivers and three horns, one of which was a very good Fostex tweeter horn.Unfortunately the rest was cheap junk,sorry.I abused these speakers for parties and even disco use,back then it was all about volume and robustness,although I had to disconnect the cheap mid-high horn sometimes because it produced an absolutely unbearably dull sound.That was around 1987,meanwhile Orbid sound seems to have moved on a bit ? To Mr. Nubert: I am very much looking forward to the establishment of a Nubert forum and will be an active visitor to it.

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Author: Benedikt Buchert
Nov 13, 2001, 12:00:00 AM

Booaaahh.... I never thought that my little article here in the forum would cause such a discussion and a run on your guestbook and that I would get such great feedback!!!! Maybe it was a bit harsh what I wrote... Because when I look back at all my nonsense, which of course, as Tobias Hoops correctly recognized, I copied from the Orbid-Sound speaker practice book, I unfortunately have to realize that I did give SpeakerFactory NUBERT a bit of a bad rap... BUT THAT WAS NOT MY INTENTION!!! So a very big !!! SORRY!!! to Günther Nubert!!! But maybe you can forgive me again, because there are so many speaker companies where the customer is simply ripped off and I just wanted to let my little anger run wild. Unfortunately, I probably got the wrong company here, although I can't explain to myself why you of all people became my victim (I was probably too strongly influenced by the frequency curves). I have been successfully swearing by the TEST results from Stiftung Warentest for years. Now that I have realized that I have made a big mistake, I hope that I can have a look around their factory and listen to their loudspeaker systems without being looked down upon!!! However, there will now also be a kind of religious war with me, as I have been friends with OrbidSound for 2 years. Let's see which of you two top companies will win the big battle for the best speakers. Because you have remarkable parallels! A perfect price/performance ratio, direct operation and spectacular sound characteristics... NUBERT? OrbidSound? Let's see what the future brings.... But as some have already said before me: What's the point of all these diagrams and technical data? The main thing is that the speakers sound good in your own four walls! And so I remain with a friendly apology personally to Günther Nubert. Best regards Benedikt =) P.S.: Please don't be angry with me anymore.

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Author: Dirk
Nov 13, 2001, 12:00:00 AM

On October 30, Christian wrote in the guestbook that he thinks Nubert has lost its lead. He mentioned B&W, so I have something to say about that. A colleague of mine believed the same thing and bought the universally praised B&W DM 303. He said it sounded quite good in the store, but at home in his own four walls it was said to be thinner and a little less clear than an Arcus speaker of the same size that was almost 10 years old. I didn't believe him, so I put my two-year-old nuBox 360 next to it and marveled at how it really made the others wet. Because the Nubert speaker was a bit bigger and didn't fit upright on the shelf, we ordered the new small Nubert 310 for testing, which arrived the very next day. We were expecting a good small speaker but didn't expect it to be so much better than the B&W303 in all respects, even in the bass, although it is much smaller. But the most important difference is the much better clarity. Dear Christian, you must do this test yourself. Respect to the salesman who exchanged the B&W for a new CD player without any problems and even admitted, shaking his head, that the Nubert 310 is a hammer.

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Author: T.Hoops
Nov 12, 2001, 12:00:00 AM

Regarding Mr. B. Buchert's comment: Somewhere I have read this exact wording before... where was it? Yes, now I know! It was in the Orbid-Sound catalog in the Hifi-Boxes-Practice section. The first sentence is practically copied (also the following sentences). OK, Orbid-Sound builds speakers with a very good sound ... but for me it is also crucial that both Nubert and Orbid-Sound do not have exorbitant prices for speakers. Therefore😂direct sales to the front An acquaintance of mine owns Nubert speakers and is very enthusiastic about these speakers (both in terms of sound and price). I, however, have so far preferred the Orbids (probably a war of faith). But I don't believe !!! that the impedance curve has no effect on the sonic impression. I also find the fact that everyone is pouncing on the frequency curves a bit strange, but as someone in the guestbook put it very correctly: the main thing is that the speakers sound good! Then I don't care about the theory.

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Author: Roland Günther
Nov 10, 2001, 12:00:00 AM

Concerning Benedikt Buchert's entry and G. Nubert's reaction I find it 1. very impressive that a 15-year-old is so extensively involved in physics, even if he misunderstands or misinterprets a lot of things, but to express his opinion eloquently is quite something. And secondly, I find it impressive that Mr. Nubert goes into such detail about Benedikt's entry.it looks as if Benedikt has taken a large part of his comments from some online publication,perhaps this has also put him on the wrong track? Physics or not: if a speaker sounds really good to me subjectively, as an end user I simply don't care what the impedance or frequency response curve looks like. The fact that these curves look very good on Nubert speakers can only make me happy, even if I ultimately don't care.

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Author: Hermann Strömer
Nov 9, 2001, 12:00:00 AM

Hello, I left a comment some time ago. In it I wrote, among other things, that I bought the Nubox 300 and was absolutely happy with it on my Luxman amplifier. The emphasis is on WAR ! I have now built myself a tube pre- and power amplifier with a frequency range of 10 - 44000 Hz. It's hard to describe what you can now hear from these speakers. I am absolutely blown away, I have never regretted the purchase and can only say once again that I will not buy any other speakers than Nubert speakers. This may sound like false advertising to some, but it really is the case, and I have made a few comparisons with other speakers such as Heco, Wega and others, and I always come back to Nubert! I can only recommend these speakers. I am always ready to answer questions!

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Author: Michael Preller
Nov 9, 2001, 12:00:00 AM

Hello! i have just seen a picture of the AW-7 on the news page. what color is it? it looks like metallic blue. It would be a rattling hot color!!! you should offer it, at least normal blue, glossy! Many greetings and thanks for building the NuWave 10, I look forward to listening to music every day after work!

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Author: Denis Peter Wagner
Nov 8, 2001, 12:00:00 AM

Hello Nubert team, it's a pity that there are still people who don't know what a guestbook is. Dear people out there, if you have specific questions, please send them to the normal Nubert e-mail address. Yours sincerely, D. Wagner

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Author: Günther Nubert
Nov 6, 2001, 12:00:00 AM

Response to the guestbook entry by Benedikt Buchert: Dear Mr. Buchert, thank you very much for wanting to give me some extra tuition in measurement technology. - I spontaneously imagined that I was a cab driver in his 27th year of work and finally a passenger had the mercy to explain to me the amazing function of the steering wheel and accelerator pedal! With your entry in the guestbook you have already proven that you had access to our web-page - it would have been very easy for you to have a look at our information in the Technology Special section and (if you are really interested in technical contexts) then to examine the data sheets and Nubert boxes as downloads for information that is useful for you. I find it inappropriate to first express your opinion in a public forum and THEN seek information. - It is also not entirely clear to me what your post in a guestbook is supposed to achieve; an e-mail inquiry or a call to our call center would have been much more logical. Perhaps you are proud of the fact that you already know quite a lot about measurement technology at the age of 15 - but you can't seriously assume that you have to explain such simple things to an old hand! In our technology pages, we describe all the points you mention in your article in great detail. However, some of your questions are not particularly logical, because the letters MLSSA next to the diagram alone already define the question about the level recorder and the test signal, and the dB scale is given. The fact that the impedance curve says more about the quality of a speaker system than the frequency response is simply nonsense. As long as the nominal impedance is not undercut by more than 20 %, it's OK - if you have a good amplifier, it makes no difference to the sound what this curve looks like. Even with long cables or tube amplifiers, an extreme increase in impedance to over 100 ohms results in a difference in level of perhaps 0.5 dB at the corresponding frequency, which is at the limit of perceptibility. Greetings Günther Nubert

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Author: Benedikt Buchert (15 Jahre)
Nov 6, 2001, 12:00:00 AM

Hello Mr. Nubert! Today I would like to say something about your speaker catalog in which you emphasize the harmony of the individual transducers with the uniform frequency curves of your speakers. the discussion about the frequency curve, which almost everyone examines with sincere interest, must begin with a statement that will probably amaze you: -------------------------- THE FREQUENCY CURVE OF A SPEAKER, IT DOESN'T EXIST!!! -------------------------- Not a single loudspeaker in the world has ONE frequency curve. There are an infinite number of different curves for each speaker! The whole thing has to do with the fact that an incredible number of factors come together when creating such a curve. As every lottery player knows, this leads to an astronomically high number of possible diagram runs. Here are just a few factors that can have an extreme influence on the shape of the curve: = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = 1. type of level recorder 2. make of measuring microphone 3. sensitivity setting on the measuring recorder (50db or 25db) 4. test signal (sliding sine, filtered noise or frequency sweep) 5. writing speed of the measuring device 6. paper speed of the measuring device 7. nature of the room (size, frequency-dependent ripple) 8. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - In order to at least limit the serious (but completely practical) spatial influences, a DIN guideline in the 1950s stipulated that frequency measurements should be carried out wherever possible (preferably at a distance of 1m). The small measurement distance at least makes room influences less significant, especially if the curves are calculated in a so-called anechoic room. But does this really help? Music lovers don't normally live in an anechoic chamber - so the room influences are there again at home! As a result, in no single case does a loudspeaker sound as the DIN curve would have you believe. -- Finally, I would like to say that I don't think your speaker company is bad because of this little thing. I realize that they are one of the good manufacturers of transducers, but when you see that they advertise with their frequency curves, you wonder, since they are professionals. They of all people should know this. why do they try impedance curves in their next catalog? They say much more about the quality of a speaker system. Besides, ONE speaker only has ONE impedance curve, which makes the whole thing much simpler and more credible. Kind regards Benedikt Buchert ICQ: 131625275 P.S.: If you find any spelling mistakes you can keep them.

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